{"id":2076,"date":"2014-10-20T22:39:54","date_gmt":"2014-10-07T16:09:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/?p=743"},"modified":"2024-07-23T13:30:29","modified_gmt":"2024-07-23T11:30:29","slug":"extract-and-use-room-boundaries-with-dynamo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/en\/extract-and-use-room-boundaries-with-dynamo\/","title":{"rendered":"Room Boundaries with Dynamo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ever wanted to create a bunch of finishing walls and floors using pre-existing rooms in a large REVIT project? I recently did and these are my findings.<\/p>\n<p>To tackle the problem you can go down two different roads: either write a custom API command or use Dynamo. Yes, Dynamo, that GH-like tool I was willing to test but handn&#8217;t find the time to. So after giving a fast try to the API and finding some hiccups with the selection of FloorTypes and WallTypes, I decided to give Dynamo a try.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t know anything about Dynamo I recommend you read this <strong><a title=\"Q&amp;A About Dynamo\" href=\"http:\/\/dynamobim.org\/qa-about-dynamo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Q&amp;A with its Authors<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>Computational BIM<\/h3>\n<p>I love the concept of computational BIM as much as I love the way REVIT treats data. It&#8217;s huge consistency across the whole platform makes it perfect for a tool like Dynamo, however, most of the domestic issues I&#8217;ve ever faced in a project could be solved by using that same consistency through family edition, schedules and normal user interface. Besides, for more geometrically complex problems I have been using Grasshopper for several years, so until now I hadn&#8217;t found the right problem to tackle with Dynamo. Until now.<\/p>\n<p>That portion of problems where a GH-like approach to REVIT entities and operation is what I understand as Computational BIM, or, put in other words, the kind of problems that have little to do with geometry, roofs, adaptive components.<\/p>\n<p>Being an experienced GH user might help you in understanding the workflow of Dynamo but I suggest you forget for a while about the way you script components, deal with trees and datatypes in GH, else you&#8217;ll have a hard time. Dynamo has a different approach to many things:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You don&#8217;t bake things but act on REVIT elements that get created or updated when something changes in your definition.<\/li>\n<li>Nodes can be created in a similar way to GH Clusters with the interesting advantage of allowing inserting them in the same node, in a recursive fashion.<\/li>\n<li>Nodes can also be scripted directly using Python and accessing REVIT entities and API tools through wrappers (I wished I understood what a wrapper is)<\/li>\n<li>Available tools depend on whether you&#8217;re working on a Project or a Family file.<\/li>\n<li>Code blocks are like GH panels with super-powers. <strong><a title=\"Code Blocks for Dummies\" href=\"http:\/\/dynamobim.org\/cbns-for-dummies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Check here.<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In my opinion, Dynamo has a great phylosophical advantage against GH, it is completely OpenSource, which has made its community quite strong and expert in less time. There is a lot of information out there, just check the <a title=\"DynamoBIM \" href=\"http:\/\/dynamobim.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dynamobim.org site <\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Room\u00a0Boundaries<\/h3>\n<p>Let&#8217;s get down to the issue. I wanted to retrieve the boundary of all the rooms in my document in order to use them to create a finish floor\u00a0and walls\u00a0using that boundary.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1050\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-3996\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries01.jpg\" alt=\"FloorBoundaries01\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries01.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries01-480x263.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries01-768x420.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries01-1280x700.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>First, and main problem, is that there is no direct way, not that I was aware of, to retrieve the boundary of a room once you select it. So to do so you have two options:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Use <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theprovingground.org\/search\/label\/lunchbox\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nathan Miller&#8217;s LunchBox package<\/a><\/strong>, which you can download by clicking Packages &gt; Search For Package and once installed, use the Lunchbox Room Elemenent Collector.<\/li>\n<li>Script your own Dynamo Node.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Which one do think I picked? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>The best way to get started with Dynamo Scripting I found is to <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/DynamoDS\/Dynamo\/wiki\/Python-0.6.3-to-0.7.x-Migration\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">read this page on the Dynamo GitHub repository<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>. <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/DynamoDS\/Dynamo\/issues\/1946\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This post <\/a><\/strong>also resulted quite useful.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s have a look at the code, I tried to add comments to make it clearer.<\/p>\n<pre class=\"lang:python decode:true\">#This script was composed by Roberto Molinos - www.modelical.com\r\n\r\nimport clr\r\n# Import RevitAPI\r\nclr.AddReference(\"RevitAPI\")\r\nimport Autodesk\r\nfrom Autodesk.Revit.DB import *\r\n\r\n# Import ToDSType(bool) extension method, not sure we need this\r\nclr.AddReference(\"RevitNodes\")\r\nimport Revit\r\nclr.ImportExtensions(Revit.Elements)\r\n# Make sure the GeometryConversion utilities are accesible see https:\/\/github.com\/DynamoDS\/Dynamo\/issues\/1946\r\nclr.ImportExtensions(Revit.GeometryConversion) \r\n\r\n# Unwrap\r\nrooms = []\r\nfor i in IN[0]:\r\n\trooms.append(UnwrapElement(i)) #This kind of opens the Revit element so it can be used by Dynamo Script\r\n# Curve array\r\ncurves = []\r\n# Boundary options for rooms\r\nopt = SpatialElementBoundaryOptions()\r\n# Iterate through every room\r\nfor room in rooms:\r\n\tif room.Area &gt; 0: # Make sure it has positive Area, i.e is placed\r\n\t\trvBoundary = room.GetBoundarySegments(opt) # Get room boundary\r\n\t\tdsBoundary = [] # A Dynamo list to hold the boundary per room, remember it can be complex, with holes\t\t\r\n\t\tfor rvLoop in rvBoundary: # For each loop in the room boundary\r\n\t\t\tdsLoop = [] # A list to hold each room's loop\r\n\t\t\tfor rvPiece in rvLoop:\t# Retrieve each segment of the loop\r\n\t\t\t\tdsPiece = Revit.GeometryConversion.RevitToProtoCurve.ToProtoType(rvPiece.Curve,True) # Read the segment as Curve and convert to Dynamo geometry\r\n\t\t\t\tdsLoop.append(dsPiece) # Add the piece to the Dynamo Loop\r\n\t\t\tdsBoundary.Add(dsLoop) # Add the Dynamo Loop to the Dynamo Boundary\r\n\t\tcurves.append(dsBoundary) # Add the Dynamo Boundary per room to the Curves list\r\n#Output\r\nOUT = curves\r\n<\/pre>\n<p>Here you can see the whole definition, click to download it:\u00a0<strong><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Modelical-RoomBoundaries.zip\">Modelical-RoomBoundaries<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1050\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-3997\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries02.jpg\" alt=\"RoomBoundaries02\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries02.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries02-480x263.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries02-768x420.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/FloorBoundaries02-1280x700.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And, if you click on the RUN button within a file with some rooms in it, just like I did, you should get something like this.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1050\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-4730\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/FloorBoundaries03.jpg\" alt=\"RoomBoundaries03\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/FloorBoundaries03.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/FloorBoundaries03-480x263.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/FloorBoundaries03-768x420.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.modelical.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/FloorBoundaries03-1280x700.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You may notice there&#8217;s another Scripting Node in my definition. Just a tiny piece of code which reuses most of the large one, to find the thickness of the wall type selected.<\/p>\n<pre class=\"lang:python decode:true \">#This script was composed by Roberto Molinos - www.modelical.com\r\n\r\nimport clr\r\n# Import RevitAPI\r\nclr.AddReference(\"RevitAPI\")\r\nimport Autodesk\r\nfrom Autodesk.Revit.DB import *\r\n\r\n# Unwrap\r\nwalltype = UnwrapElement(IN[0])\r\n\r\n#Output\r\nOUT = walltype.Width\r\n<\/pre>\n<p>And this is where I see the strongest point of Dynamo: If you&#8217;re a bit familiar with Revit API you can access almost any parameter with ease and use it you your benefit.<\/p>\n<p>Let me know your thoughts!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ever wanted to create a bunch of finishing walls and floors using pre-existing rooms in a large REVIT project? I recently did and these are my findings. To tackle the problem you can go down two different roads: either write a custom API command or use Dynamo. 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